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Yes it looks appealing if you work in LCA and carbon footprint (putting the results out to the public and end consumer), but seems also naive. Almost as if saying: if you smoke one cigarette, you will live 12 minutes and 34 seconds less (without referring a specific study, assessment methodology, etc.). And in LCA and CF, you have the specific issue of different background databases with entirely different results for similar supply chains, maybe more than in cigerette-health investigations (but I am not an expert there). So Lubomila Jordanova "This is what every product should have on its product's label" - I do not think so. Not like this, not for now.
I wonder if everyday consumers understand what these numbers mean.
As someone working with LCA and knowing about the many assumptions involved in numbers like these I'm not convinced that labels like this one gives any meaningful information to consumers on their own.. Are those numbers high or low? Are assumptions reasonable? Do they apply to me and my country? How could I impact them? What happens to the use (0.0) if I wash them regularly in my washing machine? Would that make them last longer to an extent that would be worth the extra emissions for doing so? Are the total numbers comparable to total numbers for similar or entirely different products?
I'd be the first to welcome more LCA studies but there is a great risk that we get too focused on the existence of such numbers and less what they mean. In this case the key message to consumers would be: This product comes with an amount of embedded carbon emissions. Don't waste it. Make sure to use these shoes for long and treat them well.
Would be better to have a global Carbon price on all fossil fuels (and possibly other Carbon emissions such as natural methane). Everyone understands and makes decisions from the sticker price..
Great product label indeed!
I share a simple calculation on CO2-emissions for owning and walking these shoes compared to driving a fossil fuelled car.

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The average passenger vehicle emits about 404 grams of CO2 per mile(1).
This makes an environmental return of invest after walking 7,3 miles!
(2940 grams/404 grams per mile)

Metric units:
EU fleet-wide CO2 emission targets for the period 2020-2024 for cars: 95 g CO2/km(2).
This makes an environmental return of invest after walking 31 km!
(2940 grams/95 grams per kilometer)

Without taking into account the air pollution (particles & other gases) and how great you will feel walking!

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(1) https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-typical-passenger-vehicle
(2) https://ec.europa.eu/clima/eu-action/transport-emissions/road-transport-reducing-co2-emissions-vehicles/co2-emission-performance-standards-cars-and-vans_en

Ps. Surprising that the packaging stands for 11% of the total CO2-footprint. Any improvements possible here?
I bought this shoe. It’s beautiful, and this method of manufacturing is undoubtedly the future. And I’m here for it.

But I will say, the shoes were relatively poor quality. The mesh was dirty within days, and just from crossing paths your average sidewalk scuff, the fabric was uncleanable. Within a fortnight the shoes - black and filthy - ended up in a waste paper bin during my travels in Bangkok.

So yes, let’s make fashion with a lower carbon footprint. But let’s also make it to last. Because if I had to buy six of them a year, I might have just bought a single good pair of shoes instead.
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undefinedThis is super interesting. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and how if we are to tackle this then could we apply a carbon limit to peoples lives? So those who travel extensively by Air would have to consider if their travel was utterly necessary. Could the rearrnage their lives to use less intensive travel and stay with in their budget? Or how about the food that you eat. When I see sushi trays which are expensive and the distance that the food has travelled - there should be carbon detailing on the food like this also. Its a little like we have in the UK with the HMRC and how much we can earn before being taxed - and then taxed at even higher amounts.undefined
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This would enable the customer to ensure their trainers were made in a registered factory not using child labour, paying a fair wage, using materials that conform to the same standards. Then how it was packed and shipped, third party seller verification etc. undefined
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undefinedWith all due respect: this is not what the fashion industry should be focusing on. Rather, they must take responsibility for the final destination of their products. GHG emissions from landfills are significantly increasing global warming. Of course it’s important to measure a product’s carbon footprint. It just is not the disruption that is needed but rather it’s an incremental change that just won’t cut it (see my previous newsletter edition for example where I back up this statement).undefined
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undefinedWhat is a value added to the consumer? What action is expected as a consequence? Are these numbers verifiable? Do you realize it is a waste! Every food product has on its packaging info about energy. Does somebody read it? Does somebody care? Rarely if ever. What is the point of this "green" obsession, which is not green at all and only creates unproductive work for resource-burning NGOs? These and many similar put the economy into a downward spiral.undefined
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undefinedIs it? And what for? Can anyone say if it is a lot or not? This is nonsense the market is not able to deal with climate by just giving information to customers. Look at the automotive ...everyone knows that SUVs are emitting more than city cars...nonetheless SUVs are selling more than city cars. Even sport brands are building SUVs version...we need LEGISTATION on limiting consumption not nice labels...undefined
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undefinedI'm pro consciousness and support these initiatives but this label doesn't help me. Is this al lot co2? What's the shoe benchmark? Consumers are mostly not involved and expect the industry to make te right choices for them if it comes to the environment. If you want to make them aware when choosing, then an energy-a-like label (A: low impact in the shoe cat. - E: high impact in the shoe cat.) makes it much better to understand. And print it inside the shoe or add a (digital) label to the shelf it's presented upon. This is a tear off label which adds to waste.undefined
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undefined"Facts" hide more than they show - Allbirds should add a line about how many times you need to buy new shoes since they tear and break all the time due to bizarre materials and a business model that works by making the buyer re-up more frequently - so multiply these numbers and their impact by the time factor. This is pure greenwashing. This is a lot like food labelling - it took years to get nutritional labels rightundefined
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undefinedMakes sense that one of the first to do a carbon footprint is a shoe. On a more serious note, I hope that all who do this have the methodology and input assumptions on a website somewhere.undefined
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undefinedI like that but doubt the numbers which is because I know that the supply chain CO2 is definitely an assumption and guessing the materials used, to low. Same for the pure production, this number definitely does not include the commute and further costs - and if so, other ESG criteria, here not part of the calculation, are bad again (salary, etc.). undefined
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Hence Shoe-Making, even though it is correctly the highest number, is at least to low, if not way to low.undefined
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And that's why no one even starts like this from my opinion. As fashion makers, we did publish the CO2 and further costs / item more than a decade ago and gave up when we realized that the costs of explanation where higher than the questions we wanted to raise in terms of environmental use.undefined
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I like this new beginning anyways and as soon as our new products come out, we'll start again with data incl. ESG criteria and Co.undefined
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Long story short, and as I saw it mentioned in the comments already: This is a beginning. I suggest a QR code with a website explaining the numbers etc. in addition would be great.undefined
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Let's launch one website to publish those numbers together. Why one? We save tons of CO2, probably.undefined
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undefinedHow about posting the per unit cost paid to the persons assembling the shoe? Then we would see the profit those manufacturers make per unit CO2. Then tax them with a multiplier scaler based on their profit margin base to normalize the lower wages they pay. They can then chose to pay better to lower there tax burden, or be taxed on their carbon footprint derived profits tax. undefined
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undefinednot really? the hyperfocus on carbon is wrong at its core. Complete economies and societies are now steered towards a 'thing' that is not even a 'thing', only to alarmists.undefined
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undefinedA lot of us will like this but how can I trust these numbers?undefined
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undefinedundefinedExactly! 👏🏽 This is exactly what undefinedPlanet FWD empowers brands to do with our software - across food, beauty and fashion. Would love to talk to you about how we could team up with Plan A for any of your customers that might want to continue to expand their impact in these ways. Getting consumers to a place where they understand these numbers (or other representations) is the goal - and it will take a few first movers, like Allbirds, Numi Tea, Just Salad, etc. to get us there!undefinedundefinedundefined
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undefinedI personally think it’s a decent idea but does it not put too much pressure on the people buying the clothes rather than the businesses undefined
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undefinedLove this concept but it might need some refining for shoppers - I.e. what does the 2.94 actually mean? I’ve seen a nice variation on this as ‘number of wears required to justify the purchase/expected from the purchase’… hard to calculate but maybe more meaningfulundefined
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undefinedI'd suggest they add a short link to read the methodology and the scope of the evaluations. And ideally the details of what went into this specific product's numbers.undefined
And I really hope the apparel & footwear industries (and others) will converge toward 1 methodology, including the way to set the scope. Otherwise, those numbers won't be comparable from one brand to another.undefined
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undefinedIt´s not about labelling every product - that only opens up a market for greenwashing consulting industries - but about shifting our energy supply to 100% renewable energy. But why should we keep it simple if we can create a lot of complicate mechanisms. 😉undefined
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undefinedWhat a load of crap!!! A system invented by the same idiots that believe cows are killing the planet! Too many people spending too long in universities studying box ticking systems instead of actually knowing what’s going wrong with the world. They probably all cheared in their air conditioned office when they came up with this little sticker. People who believe this is good are the problem.undefined
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undefinedIt's a fantastic start but ... water Footprint? Land use? And in particolar in the fashion industry : Social impact? Child labour?undefined
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undefinedIt would be interesting to see this stuck on the side of all new, shiny EV’s…undefined
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undefinedundefinedI agree! I got these shoes and made a post about them 4 months ago. By the way, they’re the lightest and most comfortable running shoes I’ve ever worn so far.undefined
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undefinedThe irony of equipping people with knowledge designed to empower ‘greener’ decision making is that it can often feel ambiguous. Without anything to refer to, I have no idea whether these are especially sustainable or not.undefined
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undefinedIts a good start, but seems like one total number would be enough, and I would like to see it color coded (green, yellow, red) with letters (A-F) comparing to other such products across the entire industry so we can immediately determine its relative position. And lets do the same for all 3 ESG letters as relevant to each product including its entire value/supply chain.undefined
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undefinedundefinedCarbon footprint stats on consumer goods is a topic I've been thinking a lot about recently! In undefinedBrewDog, Dublin (not sure about their other locations,) they are also putting the carbon footprint of each meal on the menu - so you can see how much better off you are, in a C02 emissions sense, by choosing one meal over another. It was interesting to see how much carbon output a burger/chicken wings have 😱. For example: a double beef burger has over 20kgs of C02 emissions, which is over 20 times more than some of its veggie burger counterparts ! 💡 I think what they are doing here is an amazing initiative.undefinedundefinedundefined
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undefinedAnd the good news is that we have both standards protocoles and SAP technologies to do it rigth now.undefined
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undefinedundefinedWe use undefinedReewild to carbon footprint all our meals. The more of us that do the more the consumer will start to understand- love it 😊undefinedundefinedundefined
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undefinedVast majority of consumers would find this information useless. It’s not the only environmental problem we have to deal with.undefined
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undefinedWhere's the primary production (agriculture) carbon footprint in it? If you count the conventional cotton production emissions to it, it will certainly emit more than it sequesters. No doubt about it. Only the Nitrogen fertilizer would already make it negative. If the cotton or rubber isn't produced regeneratively, it will never be positive.undefined
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undefinedThe customers need to understand what it means and if the company is doing something to reduce it! Declaring the carbon footprint is important business to business but to consumer they need a comparison reference to understand if it is a good performance or not. For doing that we need to align and using the same rules to calculate it. Another way could be that the company compared to their own performance and show how much reduction have been achieved for each product comparing with ten previous model. That it could be a relative performance but at least you can have the sense of the editors doneundefined
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undefinedundefinedCouldn’t agree more undefinedLubomila Jordanova. Unless we raise the bar what is going to change ??undefined
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We have provided this information on all our products for over a year now, we offer a Greenline range made from recycled materials .. fishing nets, post consumer plastics.. plastic bags etc …all certified by independent regulators! When customers are given the choice and information … they can make informed decisions!undefined
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You won’t believe how sustainable / reduced C02 footprint something can have if you try … what do you think of our approach ?? Links in the videos tell the whole story … from waste plastics to modern playgrounds! undefined
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undefinedundefinedLike with most products, also here the biggest impact is related to the materials that have been used. Responsible sourcing of upstream supplies must be based on accurate, primary and reliable information. Today, almost none of this data is known or missing in machine-readable formats. undefinedS1SEVEN | Material Identity provides software serves as a drop-in replacement for paper-based quality documents to trace quality and sustainability with computable material certificates across global supply chains. This is the foundation for verifiable calculation of Scope 3 emissions.undefinedundefinedundefined
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undefinedundefinedAgenda 2050 from NWO to rationing our economy to unseen levels. Change currency to this reference of CO2 is the desire of the 1% squadundefined
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This number are fine but then the product is shipped from Chine to let’s say New York in a vehicle that only 1 has the same CO2 emissions than 26M Passenger cars… undefined
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Then the CO2 KPIs are gone through the toilet but that seems not to be part of the equation and as well consumers do not care about the travel made by the thing they have in their hands (if they buy fisically but not online)undefined
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undefinedInteresting initiative, but it can be improved to make a bigger impact. undefined
For example rolling up to the total and add a comparison with the data about the average market-wide emission for the product category can be a good marketing idea as well as driving real change in both customers and manufacturers:undefined
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- manufacturers will try to be under the average, bringing the average down over time, creating a very positive vicious circle.undefined
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undefinedUnless this becomes industrial practice for all shoes manufacturers and brands, this won't make sense to any consumer.With what to compare? Is it less or is it more? undefined
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undefinedThis is just one part of the story of sustainable products. What about microplastics footprint, sustainable process analysis, value chain impact assessments, etc... it is a beginning of a label process but not the end and not top of the mountain or rocket science. As most of the people might know, Higg Indexing is also just one part of the story. Without a full picture, we will never run into long-term sustainability including economic benefits. As long as economic benefits beat sustainability, most of our actions will not become changemakers. They will only be seen as an add-on or nice to have. Sad but truth, isn't it? undefined
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undefinedYes definitely!!! Been thinking this for ages - it should be a standard like the nutrition break down on food!undefined
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Numbers are numbers and are good if you can compare them with something else. The company seems to be a pioneer comunicating what is the footprint for one of the products which is good. Think about your companies and how many are communicating at least something connecting with sustainability like the shoes company + how good their are in production achieving sustainability goals. undefined
Then we have the feeling point when we as a consumer decide about paper or plastic with our to consider many things as Carbo footpriint or the company in the back producing products and bringing garment from China to consume in America or Europe etc. undefined
We all are responsible for pushing the companies to be betters in sustainability. I totally agreed with the shoes company showing showing the Carbo footprint of the products. We should all promote this practice.undefined
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undefinedMaterials, materials, materials, everyone looking at materials and the production of a product. And while it is indeed important, we have billions of waste no one seems to care about… Let’s focus on durability, where a garment can last 10 years. Let’s focus on education, when you don’t need to own 15 pairs of shoes… a year! Let’s focus on how to get all those wasted garments back processes and not the landfills. Let’s start by designing in a way that recyclability is practical. And then, we can focus on materials and improving those, with proper reliable data that assures it’s use. Not like with recycled polyester…undefined
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undefinedThis is waaaay too system 2 for the average consumer. Tell me a story, like how far did the shoe travel in kms? How many showers worth of water did it take to grow the cotton? How many lightbulbs were on and for how long energy-wise? Concepts that we can all relate to and that we are already familiar with.undefined
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undefinedAlthough educating the masses is always a step in the right direction, putting the onus on the individual to solve climate change shifts the responsibility from government and corporations to address this crisis, thus reducing the likelihood our society will be able to develop a viable solution. Instead of telling us the carbon footprint of a shoe, why don't shoe companies actually take steps to minimize it?undefined
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undefinedI like the idea and it would work if everyone was conscious with their decision-making. However, the recent discussions regarding celebrities and rich individuals using private jets showcase that humanity is really far away from this level of consciousness. Us counting our carbon footprint does not change much if the rich ones keep doing whatever they want like taking a jet flight for 5 min so that they would “save” time on a 30 min drive. I am sure that if we digged around we could find many more examples of extremely poor environmental choices in the elite circles that are much more environmentally impactful than us counting how much our shoes cost in carbon emissions 🤷‍♀️undefined
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undefinedInteresting approach to help customers understand the impact of product lifecycles. I would be interested to see if customers understand the values and change their buying behavior accordingly. I think that the textile industry should not only focus on CO2 equivalents. The number of shoes produced, the working conditions in production, the percentage of sole abrasion... there are far more criteria that could be made transparent to have an influence in the buying behavior. undefined
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undefinedundefinedIs "USE" really zero though??? Technically speaking, they likely have the data to determine 1) how long these shoes will last based on material degradation (person's weight, shoe exposure to UV, Laundry cycles), # of days used and 2) how many miles or kilometers a person will walk in these shoes. If anything, they should be listing a carbon credit there for "USE". That might also have an incentive nudge effect of encouraging other consumers to be these shoes and at least walk more often than drive.... undefined#nudgeundefined#boothundefined#dataundefinedundefinedundefined
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Even if they switch to other products, the gross price will be larger (production of cleaner products + lower taxes versus production of polution heavy products + higher taxes taxes).undefined
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undefinedundefinedthis is a great start but there are easy ways to do this better. Think of a Digital Product Passport (DPP) enabled by QR and/or NFC. This allows for more and better sharing of information and reduces the need for such a big label (which is more sustainable and nicer to look at.) We undefinedTappr would love to share how this can be done undefined#Tapprundefined#sustainabilityundefined#digitalproductsundefined#nfcundefined#digitalfashionundefinedundefinedundefined
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Reading this, I have so many questions: What does X amount of KG of CO2 per pair actually mean? How does this compare to a regular pair of sneakers? What does the 'end of life' stage entail here - are we talking about fully recycling the pair?undefined
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- how about washing shoes at a certain temperature, or with cold water? How about using a class A washing machine, or a class D one? How is this included in the e2e life of the shoe? This has no 0.0 impact in useundefined
- how about consumers actually trusting these numbers? There is no reliable way in which to achieve the necessary accuracy and credibility of the source and process of the numbers printed there. Especially, considering infrastructure in developing countries (where these shoes are produced), is not the best priority for big enterprises)undefined
- how about consumers interpreting what is written there? There is little to no education on this frontundefined
- even more important: how about the social impact of producing goods in developing countries? I would include an ESG rating rather than a carbon footprint one. This would provide a broader perspective on what the company is actually doingundefined
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undefinedundefinedVery good metrics, but I do not agree with the statement that use is 0!undefined
Sure, the sneakers do not emit any carbon dioxide during usage, but the human using them does. This should also be noted on the label, same as the cars.undefined
The data shows that the greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions associated with food intake required to fuel a kilometer of walking range between 0.05 kgCO2e/km in the least economically developed countries to 0.26 kgCO2e/km in the most economically developed countries. (Citation: undefinedhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7280492/ )undefined
So, if one uses these shoes for 100km, one will have carbon footprint between 5kg and 26kg.undefined
Usually, I try to use my sneakers for more than 100 km. My target for using shoes is always 650km (as suggested by my Gamin watch 😁), so during the lifetime of any shoes that I use I emit between 32.5kg up to 169kg.undefined
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undefinedI think I care more about the biodegradability of this product than the carbon footprint. Heating, electricity, and transportation are (according to a quick search) the biggest sources of carbon dioxide emission and I think our focus should be on mitigating emissions for those. Things like sneakers should, in my opinion, have a different focus when we consider their environmental impact, namely their biodegradability and/or recyclability. That said, if we decarbonized energy and transportation, it would also impact the bottom-line carbon score of this product.undefined
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undefinedI think that whether or not people currently understand what all this means, its much like the food nutrition labels - it forces makers to recognize the content of their products but also informs us and allows all of us to make an informed decision about what we decide to put in our bodies. I think that when makers start labeling their work along carbon footprint terms, they are also forced to recognize how taxing what they do is on the environment and how they can work to reduce it as well as giving us as consumers a benchmark for understanding what we want to support or not. Of course we can all get better at understanding what each of those numbers really mean, but don't worry, if this becomes universal, there will be enough people willing to create articles that explain how to read those numbers. Just wait.undefined
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For the final customer (believe me) is much more understandable, and credible, the action of planting and attaching a certificate of a tree to take action to cover and relief this impact on the earth 👉undefined
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undefinedIt is surely a good start. But our impact on the environment is not only the carbon footprint.undefined
We have also water, nitrogen, sulphur footprints.. which should also be included. Maybe for this specific product the other footprints are negligible compared to the carbon footprint, but we need to start looking at the complete picture and not focus on CO2 only. undefined
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The more familiar we are with this information the easier it will be for all of us to take action to counteract this footprint.undefined
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undefinedVery good and important step forward but the product/ presentation needs some further development. It is hard for consumers to understand what these numbers are about. It will be good to think a bit more how to benchmark and present these numbers to consumers. At the last point it will be good to refer to Adidas’ shoe recycling facilities’ addresses:)undefined
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undefinedI'm interested to know how the USE has no carbon footprint? Products wear out and break before end of life resulting in waste. Material wears out, or breaks off entirely in chunks needing some kind of cleanup. Replacing laces, cleaning is part of use? especially for a white/cream shoe. innersoles? All seems like this would be under USE, so surely it can't be 0?undefined
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undefinedWhat this product should have is proven quality and less plastic. A shoe that will last you more than 5 years. Less carbon nonsense please! What is that label made of? More shoes made of leather and less plastic! You talk a lot about carbon and you have a plastic label that is enough to say that nonsense!undefined
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undefinedGreat initiative! a bit difficult to apply to all products sooner nevertheless a step forward!undefined
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undefinedNot perfect, nevertheless a good start for sustainability consciousness and green future!undefined
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